Recharacterizing Roth IRA Conversions? – Your Ace in the Hole When the Death of the Stretch IRA Passes?

What Are The Risk of Roth IRA ReCharacterizations?

The Risk of Roth IRA Recharacterizations and The Death of the Stretch IRA James Lange

This post is the last in a series about how you might be able to use Roth IRA conversions as a defense against the Death of the Stretch IRA.

How does a Roth IRA Conversion Work?

Suppose you have an IRA worth exactly $1 million, and that it happens to be invested equally in ten different mutual funds of $100,000 each. Then suppose we run the numbers for you and figure out that $100,000 is the optimal amount for you to convert to a Roth IRA.  How does a Roth IRA Conversion work?

Well, one idea would be to start by ranking your funds according to how much you expect them to fluctuate in value.  Maybe you are holding a portion of your IRA in Certificates of Deposit at your bank.  Most people would expect that money to be “safer” because it generally doesn’t fluctuate in value.  Then suppose you have a portion of your IRA invested in large cap stocks.  You’ve noticed the value changing as the stock market moves up and down but, in your case, we’ll say this fund fluctuates an “average” amount compared to your other holdings.  Then suppose that you also a portion of your IRA invested in small cap stocks, and that fund has been known to lose 20 percent of its value overnight.  We’ll call that one the “riskiest.”

So which part of your IRA should you convert?  You could convert the CDs or the ones that you consider to be the safest.  Or you could convert the small cap stocks – the one you consider to be the riskiest.  Maybe you’d like to convert part of each fund that you own.  Let’s look at the possible outcomes.

You can certainly convert your CDs but, in my opinion, going through all that paperwork to avoid paying taxes on the one or two percent you’ve probably earned on them doesn’t seem worth the time or trouble.  What about converting a little bit from each fund you own?  I’d prefer that to converting the CDs, but it still seems like more work than necessary.  What about your “riskiest” fund – the one that has the value that fluctuates wildly?  Let’s assume that you converted $100,000 of that fund.  What position might you be in a year down the road?

Well, suppose that fund doubles in value.  You now have a Roth IRA worth $200,000 but you only had to pay tax on a $100,000 conversion.  Good for you!   But suppose the fund went down in value, and now you have a Roth IRA worth $50,000.  Worse yet, you’ve paid $25,000 in income taxes, and now you’re really mad at me.

Recharacterize Your Roth IRA Conversion

Remember, as long as you act by the October tax deadline, you can recharacterize, or undo, your conversion.  This flexibility can give you enormous peace of mind while you’re waiting for the details of the Death of the Stretch IRA to be finalized. A recharacterization will NOT get back the money your investment may have lost – you will need to wait for the market to come back up for that.  What the recharacterization can do is get back the money you paid in income taxes, if the account goes down in value.

A Risk of Roth IRA Conversions

As beneficial as Roth IRA conversions and recharacterizations can be, there is always one risk I make clients aware of when discussing them.  It has to do with the IRS itself.  Have you ever known anyone who has gotten tied up in an endless and stupid loop of government red tape?  Let me tell you about a married couple I know, who have always filed jointly.  The wife, whose name has always been listed second on the tax return, started a consulting business and, as she was required to, made an estimated tax payment for the income she earned.  The couple filed a joint return and waited for their refund to arrive.  They finally received a letter from the IRS and opened it, only to find that there was no refund enclosed.  Worse yet, there was a letter saying that no refund would be coming because they had overstated the amount of tax they had paid – a transgression that not only caused the IRS to completely wipe out their refund but add a significant amount of penalties and interest to their tax bill.

Armed with copies of canceled checks, the wife went down to the local IRS office and demanded they retract their letter – which they eventually did.  But do you want to know why it happened in the first place?   When the wife made the estimated tax payment for her business, she paid it using her own Social Security number because that was the number shown on the 1099s she’d received for her consulting work.  Unfortunately, when they received her check, the IRS didn’t recognize her as a taxpayer.  Even though she’s always filed jointly with her husband, her name and Social Security number were listed on the second line of the return, not the first.  And because hers was not the first name – even though it was a joint tax return – the IRS could find no record of her, and her tax payment just went into a big black hole!

Unfortunately, we have found that the IRS sometimes has trouble putting two and two together.  If both your conversion and recharacterization forms aren’t filled out exactly right, you could risk getting a nasty letter in your mailbox.  We fight those battles with the IRS on behalf of our clients, but if you’re a do-it-yourselfer, you need to know that it’s not unheard of for them to have a record of just one form or the other – but not both.  If it happens to you, you need to stick to your guns and get it sorted out.  A Roth IRA conversion can be your best defense against the Death of the Stretch IRA, and you can change your mind as long as you recharacterize by the deadline!

Thanks for reading, and stop back soon!

-Jim

For more information on this topic, please visit our Death of the Stretch IRA resource.

P.S. Did you miss a video blog post? Here are the past video blog posts in this video series.

Will New Rules for Inherited IRAs Mean the Death of the Stretch IRA?
Are There Any Exceptions to the Death of the Stretch IRA Legislation?
How will your Required Minimum Distributions Work After the Death of the Stretch IRA Legislation?
Can a Charitable Remainder Unitrust (CRUT) Protect your Heirs from the Death of the Stretch IRA?
What Should You Be Doing Now to Protect your Heirs from the Death of the Stretch IRA?
How Does The New DOL Fiduciary Rule Affect You?
Why is the Death of the Stretch IRA legislation likely to pass?
The Exclusions for the Death of the Stretch IRA
Using Gifting and Life Insurance as a Solution to the Death of the Stretch IRA
Using Roth Conversions as a Possible Solution for Death of the Stretch IRA
How Lange’s Cascading Beneficiary Plan can help protect your family against the Death of the Stretch IRA
How Flexible Estate Planning Can be a Solution for Death of the Stretch IRA
President Trump’s Tax Reform Proposal and How it Might Affect You
Getting Social Security Benefits Right with the Death of the Stretch IRA
The Best Age to Apply for Social Security Benefits after the Death of the Stretch IRA
Part II: The Best Age to Apply for Social Security Benefits after the Death of the Stretch IRA
Social Security Options After Divorce: Don’t Overlook the Possibilities Just Because You Hate Your Ex
Is Your Health the Best Reason to Wait to Apply for Social Security?
Roth IRA Conversions and the Death of the Stretch IRA
How Roth IRA Conversions can help Minimize the Effects of the Death of the Stretch IRA
How Roth IRA Conversions Can Benefit You Even if The Death of Stretch IRA Doesn’t Pass
The Death of the Stretch IRA: Will the Rich Get Richer?
The Best Time for Roth IRA conversions: Before or After the Death of the Stretch IRA?
Roth IRA Conversions and the Death of the Stretch IRA
Part II: How Roth IRA Conversions Can Help Protect You Against the Death of the Stretch IRA
Roth IRA Recharacterizations and the Death of the Stretch IRA
The Risk of Roth IRA Recharacterizations & The Death of the Stretch IRA

 

Tax Free Roth IRAs: Don’t Believe Everything You Read

Tax Free Roth IRA, Don't Believe Everything You Read, James Lange, The Lange Financial GroupMy wife recently told me that she didn’t think that there was anything that could keep me from blogging about my upcoming book, Retire Secure!  While she was joking, she was also right, I thought. But then, an article that was published in US News and World Report yesterday (April 20, 2015) was inaccurate on so many points that I could not let it go without commenting on it. I submitted a comment to the article and asked that the article be retracted. I can only hope that the magazine will publish a retraction, and quickly, before an unsuspecting reader takes the writer’s recommendations to heart.

The writer is a certified financial planner and registered investment advisor, as well as a published author, from Virginia. He begins by telling readers about Roth IRAs. He says that you can contribute $5,000 to a Roth IRA – that limit was increased $5,500 in 2013. If you have a Roth account in your 401(k), he claims you can add $6,000 to it if you are over 50 years old. (If you are over 50, you can add $24,000 to a Roth 401(k) in 2015this is made up of the $18,000 basic contribution limit plus a $6,000 “catch-up” contribution limit.) He claims that, if you contribute to a Roth, “the money you invest will be taxed”. (Everyone knows that, if you follow the rules, Roth accounts aren’t taxable, right? I sincerely hope that what he was trying to say was that there is no tax deduction for Roth contributions!) Then he tells readers that, after age 59 ½, “when you begin to take distributions” from the Roth, they will be tax-free”. That statement is not inaccurate, but it does omit the very important fact that your contributions can be withdrawn from a tax free Roth IRA before age 59 1/2.  (Earnings on your contributions are treated differently.) It is the traditional IRA that, in most cases, you cannot withdraw from without penalty until age 59 1/2.

The worst advice, though, came when he tried to present the pros and cons of Roth conversions.

He recommends that you take one of your existing IRAs or qualified plans and convert the entire thing to a Roth, but then warns you that you will need to pay tax on that entire conversion at once.What is omitted here is that, if you convert your entire account at once, your tax bill may be so large that you move up in to a higher tax bracket. It would be imprudent to make such a recommendation to a client! What generally makes more sense is to make several smaller conversions, in amounts that ensure that you stay in the same tax bracket. He recommends not making tax free Roth IRA conversions later in life, on the basis that you will not live long enough to enjoy the tax-free benefits. Tongue in cheek, I might argue that that’s a risk at any age, but even if you don’t live long enough to enjoy them, the tax-free benefits to your heirs, who are likely much younger than you, are indisputable. The strangest statement against Roth conversions, I thought, was that “you will potentially have to write a big check to the IRS”. It is true that you will have to pay tax on any amount converted from a traditional to a Roth IRA. But even if you don’t need your retirement money to live on, you will have to start taking withdrawals from your traditional IRAs every year once you turn age 70 ½. Those mandatory withdrawals will be taxable, and at that point you will be writing a big check to the IRS. The question is, does it make more sense to make Roth conversions while your retirement account balance is likely to be smaller, pay tax on a smaller amount of money, and generate tax-free income on all of the future earnings on the converted amount? Or, does it make more sense to wait twenty or thirty years, let the taxable traditional IRA grow as large as possible, and then pay the tax on the larger mandatory withdrawals?

In this age of electronic communications it’s easier to offer opposing points of view, and I have to admit that I wasn’t surprised when I saw the sheer volume of dissenting opinions that the article produced within hours of its publication. I also wondered if there were other individuals who read it and took the advice to heart. That made me think of another question – what would my readers have thought about that article, especially after receiving such dramatically different advice from me? Who are you supposed to trust?

My advice to you is this – trust yourself first. If a financial professional says something that does not make sense to you, ask for clarification. If the answer you are given still doesn’t make sense to you, trust your instincts. Get a second, third, fourth or fifth opinion before you act. Or, look up the answer yourself. There are number of resources that my staff and I use all the time, that are also available to you.   These include the Internal Revenue Service’s website (www.irs.gov), the Social Secure Administration’s website (www.ssa.gov), and the website established by Medicare (www.medicare.gov). Educating yourself about your options is the best defense against making a potential mistake that you have available to you.

I’ll get off my soapbox now. Stop back soon for another update on my book.

Jim

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Our Debut Show was a Big Success!

Thanks again to Ed Slott, ‘America’s IRA Expert,’ for taking the time to join us for the premiere of our radio show “The Lange Money Hour: Where Smart Money Talks” which aired on March 25th. Ed was a great guest and Jim and Ed ended up covering a lot of excellent tax-saving strategies. If you missed it, be sure to check out the audio that’s posted on retiresecure.com.

In their first appearance together, Jim and Ed explored how seniors can exploit the new law suspending required minimum distributions for 2009, Roth IRA conversion strategies for 2010, how to protect your IRA by using life insurance, planning for after-tax dollars inside a retirement plan after retirement and how to pick a good financial advisor. They even chatted about Bill Mazeroski and his 1960 ninth-inning, World Series-winning, home run against the New York Yankees (believe it or not, it’s a baseball analogy that relates to IRA investors today.) Come to think of it, it’s amazing that they were able to cover all of that in just one hour!

By the way, Ed Slott’s latest book Stay Rich For Life: Growing and Protecting Your Money in These Turbulent Times comes with a companion workbook that is very helpful. Jim was actually using it during the show!

Exciting news for the next show which is scheduled to air on Wednesday, April 8th from 7-8 p.m. ET on KQV 1410am. One of our Lange team members has agreed to join Jim to talk about taxes. Steve Kohman is a CPA, Certified Specialist in Estate Planning, Certified Valuation Analyst and a Resident Insurance Provider. He’s also an incredible “numbers-runner” – crunching the numbers to determine the best plan of action for you.

One week from the tax deadline, Jim and Steve will explain why it’s not too late to do something about your 2008 return. They’re happy to take your questions, so feel free to call the studio line at 412-333-9385.

Catch Jim and Steve on Wednesday, April 8th from 7-8 p.m. ET with a rebroadcast on Sunday, April 12th from 9-10 a.m. ET. Thanks to everyone who’s been listening around the country online at kqv.com. We’ve recently had listeners check in from Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio and Texas – we love hearing from you!

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Don’t forget that the audio to all of these shows is always posted on retiresecure.com.